Not all heroes wear capes. That is the story of Former wrongfully convicted advocates Michael Harris & Paul Nutall who are scheduled to host a riveting show called 2nd Chance Saves Lives on Fox. With their shared experience and passion for changing lives, the two have banned together to shed light on people who are seeking second chances at life after being falsely incarcerated for crimes they did not commit.
2nd Chances helping others:
2nd Chance TV Show & Production is a unique company founded by Paul and Tiffany Nutall that is focused on lending a helping hand to those in need. Having endured many tragic events throughout his life, Paul found his wife who shared his enthusiasm and compassion for others. As he had already been making an impact helping fallen celebrities in Hollywood get a second chance, they collaborated to build their company, bringing the 2nd Chance Saves Lives TV Show to the small screen. The program would shed light on the lives of others who endured many trials and tribulations. Joining them on the stage is Michael Harris, a man whose career has spanned over multiple industries.
The show’s mission will be the same as its namesake organization which is telling the stories of the underprivileged and struggling individuals who need to clear the obstacles in their path toward health, success, fulfillment, and redemption. Just as 2nd Chances program seeks to educate, uplift, motivate, and inspire, it’s also seeking to make a difference by connecting with the public directly.
Paul is a three-time, world champion kickboxer who also spent years as a renowned gang-unit officer and a regional youth specialist. He later endured a series of intense personal challenges like Harris that would inform his desire to build a platform to help others.
Paul and Micheal’s resilience and determination to be a voice to those falsely convicted is admirable in more ways than one. As they have made it their mission to educate people all over the world, garnering television attention is only going to help them spark even more change.
I had the pleasure of catching up with the two for candid conversation to discuss the vision behind 2nd Chance Saves Lives. Check it out below.
Paul Nutall and Michael “Harry O” Harris Interview
How did you all meet?
In 2019, Michael was still serving time in Lompoc prison in California. One of my brothers was also serving time at the same location and during that time we sent my brother photos that I had with celebrities I knew when I was helping fallen celebrities in Hollywood.
Michael overheard my brother talking about our 2nd Chance Saves Lives TV show that we were producing at the time. So, he then gave me a call wanting to connect and learn more about our 2nd Chance organization. He shared with us what he had done in the past with Death Row records along with the other people that he had helped along the way. After building a rapport, we signed him on as a Co-Owner of our organization despite his situation for his 2nd Chance.
Where are you both from and currently reside?
My wife and I currently reside in San Antonio, Texas. Meanwhile Michael is living in California where we used to reside.
Why do you feel that everyone deserves a 2nd Chance at life?
Paul: With what I have been through: family abandonment, wrongful incarceration twice, and homelessness twice, I unfortunately did not have anyone there for me after being abandoned by my family for almost 3 decades. Only God got me through many of the trials and injustices that I faced, and I know that He made me go through what I did so that it would birth a fire, resilience, and passion within me to want to help others in need. With that being said, I believe that everyone deserves a 2nd Chance to redeem themselves.
What was the Driving force behind the 2nd Chance Saves Lives program?
While Michael was still incarcerated, my wife and I had to find avenues to fund our program. Unfortunately, due to his situation, Michael was unable to provide his share, so we depended on and put all of our Faith in God to guide us through and direct our paths. There have been multiple times, I can count five times thus far, where my wife and I came down to our last penny and a couple times were in the negative investing our time, money, and energy to produce our show. But God always came through at the exact right time for us. I can confidently say that we work with God to be the force to make this program happen, and God is driving and guiding the train to where we need to go, and we just follow where He leads us.
What occurred in you all’s lives that made you want to get involved with this type of initiative? (Paul & Harry)
Paul: I was first disowned by my family after a lie that was spread by my two brothers who were arrested for robbery. They shifted the blame on me insinuating that I was the cause of their arrest, which led to my whole family believing the lie and ceasing contact with me for 28 years. Another family member wrote a false rip-off report about me with someone I dated in the past who had a woman’s scorn to discredit my character; which did at one point, greatly affecting potential business dealings in the beginning of our journey.
I was wrongly incarcerated by the Federal government over a scam by people in Nigeria that led me to being incarcerated for 14 months because I was a “flight-risk” and in my opinion, a black man. After they dropped 2-40 charges and my release, I became homeless, was unable to pay child support, which led me to be arrested once again to serve 6 more months in jail and being homeless once again. The ups and downs of my life made me realize that I must help others who may not have the same amount of strength or resources to overcomes similar obstacles that I endured.
Michael: I was raised by a single parent and grew up in a rough and disenfranchised neighborhood where opportunities were very scarce. I made a crucial mistake in judgement and took a road that would scar me for life by learning the drug trade and served 30+ years for attempted murder and cocaine trafficking. Early on I witnessed the disadvantages that the African Americans and people of color faced and from then on dreamed that they would share an equal playing field to those who lacked the opportunity. Together with the 2nd Chance force now as a free man, I hope that my experiences and skill sets will contribute in making this happen for all.
How did both of your lives change both experiencing being wrongfully convicted?
Paul: I realized after these experiences that there are many others in the system who are innocent and serving time for crimes they did not commit and that the justice system, at times, is not fair when it comes to minorities especially with the black ethnicity.
Michael: I was convicted of attempted murder and cocaine trafficking, and I believe that I served too much time, about 10 years over. However, my life has changed through the humbling experiences during my 30+ years behind bars. I have decided to move in the name of peace, reconciliation, transformation, and redemption.
Would you all have done anything differently that day?
Paul: If I could, I would have paid attention to the red flags when speaking to the man in Nigeria especially when he asked me to send some of the money that I was given from him back to multiple cities. I allowed my heart to be taken advantage of because of the kids in Nigeria who wanted to be trained in boxing. At the time, I was already working with kids at a juvenile facility in Michigan, so I was easily manipulated.
Michael: I believe that anyone in my position would do things different to avoid having to serve over 30 years behind bars. I would do anything to avoid missing out on 30 years of my daughters’ lives, friends, and family. I was young at that time and took risks in the wrong places, but what I have learned over the years is invaluable and by utilizing my life experience, leadership, and assessment skills, I can be the difference in rebuilding our communities and our country teamed with the 2nd Chance Saves Lives organization.
Paul as a 3-time boxing champion how important is it to you to use your platform to spark change?
Paul: Although I was a 3-time kickboxing champion, I wasn’t the same person as I am today with the platform that I have now. When I was a kick-boxing champion at 21 years old, I was more focused on myself and wasn’t thinking about using my platform to spark change. But now, I am using my platform today as a leader to inspire, motivate, uplift others and fight for others to get their 2nd Chance and change society through positive influence.
Michael how are you able to translate the work you have done in the arts and entertainment to the 2nd Chance initiative?
Michael: From my many life experiences I have become more in touch with the pulse of my true purpose. I am a man who has experienced incredible highs and incredible lows. I have grown and have matured, and I have been inspired to rediscover the thoughtful young boy within me that I once knew, and respected. And I can say that this next part of my life journey will be from a place of truth. I will take the time to share my story and will make the effort to help support 2nd Chance at helping to save lives.
What advice would you give to someone who is currently incarcerated and has been falsely convicted?
Paul: I would tell those currently incarcerated to put God first by asking Him for help and to never lose hope, because there is hope available with our show Forgotten Prisoners! One of their family members can submit their information & story on our website ( https://2ndchancesaveslives.org/forgotten-prisoners-show ) so that we can review their case, air their story on the TV network, so that those who have the power can reach out and work on their case for their release.
Michael what was the vision behind you founding and funding Death Row Records?
Michael: I came up with the vision for a record label during the time that I was temporarily housed on Condemned Row known as Death Row with my X-wife Lydia Harris, Suge Knight, Dr. Dre, and my criminal/business attorney, David Kenner. My goal was to capture the reality of extreme confinement and its consequences, so our label went on to produce Dr. Dre’s debut L.P the Chronic, and promoted the careers of superstars Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Dog Pound, Lady the Rage, Jewell, and Tupac Shakur.
Did you imagine it would grow to be so historical and influential?
Paul: I always knew in my heart that it would be successful eventually, and maybe I was caught up in trying to make it be a success that I didn’t take the time to envision how grand and influential our 2nd Chance organization would become. But now I know that with God, all things are possible.
What do you hope viewers learn the most from this show?
Paul: I hope viewers will learn to be compassionate in their own lives and will be empowered to help others and realize how many people in the world need help, but they just aren’t aware of it.
Is it ever too late to start over?
Paul: It is never too late to start over as long as you have the heart to not quit when it gets tempting to, a vision, and God by your side. When you cut out distractions, you can achieve anything you put your mind to.
When can we expect an air date and on what station can we expect the show to be ran on?
The show will air on the FOX network on Saturdays between 7-8pm CST. We will be announcing the date soon on our social media platforms. Stay tuned!